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Post by trvballek on Jan 14, 2009 17:55:47 GMT -5
ALRIGHT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY WHEN THERE IS SOMEONE WHO CLAIMS KOREAN NINJUTSU IS REAL I GET ALITTLE PISSED SINCE YA KNOW THEY CLAIM THAT KARATE CAME FROM THEM ALSO WHY CHOOSE AN ART LIKE NINJUTSU THERE IS NO FREAKIN COMPARISON WHAT SO EVER GOD DAMN TAE KWON DO. ninja DIDN'T JUMP IN THE AIR LIKE AN IDIOT AND KICK WILDLY IN A TAE KWON DO OR TANG SO DO FASHION THATS WHY THEY WERE KNOW AS SHADOWS THEY WERE AN ELITE WARRIOR and spy not a movie tae kwon do guy or girl
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Post by budodedicated on Jan 14, 2009 21:02:58 GMT -5
ALRIGHT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY WHEN THERE IS SOMEONE WHO CLAIMS KOREAN NINJUTSU IS REAL I GET ALITTLE PISSED SINCE YA KNOW THEY CLAIM THAT KARATE CAME FROM THEM ALSO WHY CHOOSE AN ART LIKE NINJUTSU THERE IS NO FREAKIN COMPARISON WHAT SO EVER GOD DAMN TAE KWON DO. ninja DIDN'T JUMP IN THE AIR LIKE AN IDIOT AND KICK WILDLY IN A TAE KWON DO OR TANG SO DO FASHION THATS WHY THEY WERE KNOW AS SHADOWS THEY WERE AN ELITE WARRIOR and spy not a movie tae kwon do guy or girl what's the Korean word for ninja? seems to be ninja. what's the Korean word for ninjutsu? seems to be ninjutsu what's the Korean word for taijutsu? seems to be taijutsu see a pattern? i've seen a Korean ninja, but yet have heard no words of Korean names for any of these things Korean stealth martial arts is called Nintaijutsu. is this not a japanese name? interesting situation  |
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Post by trvballek on Jan 15, 2009 12:08:14 GMT -5
i agree with ur statement
its a korean art but everything he says is in japanese or english
and ya gotta love how he comes up with names on the fly like um um um its called um choson overhand two finger thats two finger choson grip
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Post by crazyninja on Jan 17, 2009 18:00:10 GMT -5
The worst part about this is how stupid chosonninjers are.
They really believe nintaijutsu is Korean lol.
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Post by ph7 on Jan 18, 2009 2:34:40 GMT -5
I just want to know the truth. ive tried to get into actual martial arts before but i live in Utah. There is nothing here. Absolutely nothing.
I resorted to youtube after my passion for knowledge didnt go away, and what i found was myself in the midst of a huge turmoil between so called chosonninja and like houzansuzuki or something.
I just want to know the truth, and exactly how i can somewhat "self-train" until im able to move out of utah to go to a place to actually learn a martial art.
sorry if i seem like a chosonninjer'er or w/e you seem to call them, i dont mean to offend anyone.
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Post by scottbaioisdead on Jan 18, 2009 13:40:31 GMT -5
no training is better than bad training, i used to drive 2 hours to class from one side of nj to the other but not everyone can do that. if you can only make it to a seminar once a month thats better than trying to copy bullshit on youtube and building bad habits. try this www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Cabin/9895/ |
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Post by crazyninja on Jan 18, 2009 17:01:43 GMT -5
There's is a simple way to check if choson is a real sensei or not...
just do some basic research...
Do that and you'll discover a lot of things about him:
1) bujinkan kinda hate him and see him as a bullshitter
2) nintaijutsu is a cheap copy of ninjutsu, it still sounds japanese
3)No real serious martial artist will eb dumb enough to start doing nintaijutsu.
4) the so called korean ninja choson talks about don't exist, the history he invents can't be found in any history book and no historian will confirm it.
5)choson actually has made death threats, his students as well
6) just look at his students and lovers:
all reactions to his vid are something like:
You're awesome, cool!, great stuff, etc
When you tell a chosonninjer that he's bullshit, his reaction is:
you suck, you're an asshole, I'm a real ninja and I'm gonna kick your ass, etc
Any real sensei will tell you that you can't learn from youtube, yet choson does teach online.
A bad teacher will have bad students.
You don't know your sensei, he can't correct, tell you that you're doing ok...It's all BS
Yet people claim they learn from choson.
These people have very low skill at anything they do...
Learn from choson and you'll have bad cheap skills, don't expect them to be effective...
If you really want to learn real martial arts, do an effort!
I have to travel 1h30 to get to one of my dojos, I don't mind.
Move to japan if you have the guts to do it...
I'm thinking about going to japan to get some more info on shuriken and shuriken jutsu. It's gonna be a huge effort, but I'm still going to do it.
Just move to a bigger city if you really want to do some martial art.
If you believe people like choson, you'll just be pretending to be a ninja...
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Post by budodedicated on Jan 21, 2009 20:11:22 GMT -5
i'm joining a Genbukan dojo that's FIVE HOURS DRIVE from me.
i will have to be up at 4am, and drive 5 hours on saturday mornings to attend a class.
as i have a wife and child, i'll only be able to make it out there on the rare occasion.
to supplement, i purchase training material from the website. it's not the same, but the in-class participation helps to show you what you're doing right and wrong on your own.
you have to have a training partner, or at least an Uke that is willing to allow you to try out techniques on them in your spare time.
this is what i've come to know.
all that's around my area is self-defense, self-defense, self-defense.
there's MMA and brazilian jiu-jitsu but i'm not interested at all.
i've done my time in the Kempo and self defense, and i'm not going to start, but as a mature martial artist (or so i'd like to say), i need something more to make me feel completeness, in mind, body and spirit.
we're both in a similar situation.
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Post by ph7 on Jan 22, 2009 17:43:48 GMT -5
Ok. thank you all for helping me. I sent an e-mail to the Utah Ninpo, and i havnt gotten a response yet, so hopefully one will come soon.
Also, thanks for letting me know that choson was a BS ninja/sensei. I would have gotten suckered right into it and i would have felt like a total idiot. Thanks lol.
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Post by scottbaioisdead on Jan 22, 2009 23:02:55 GMT -5
no problem, i'll check who's running things there and see if i can get you a faster response.
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Post by tenryu on Jan 23, 2009 5:54:50 GMT -5
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Post by crazyninja on Jan 23, 2009 8:03:49 GMT -5
Ok. thank you all for helping me. I sent an e-mail to the Utah Ninpo, and i havnt gotten a response yet, so hopefully one will come soon. Also, thanks for letting me know that choson was a BS ninja/sensei. I would have gotten suckered right into it and i would have felt like a total idiot. Thanks lol. It's wonderful to hear, you won't be proving anything by immitating choson, but you'll be doing some real martial art in Utah, without anyone having to say that you're a bullshitter and bullshit. |
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Post by scottbaioisdead on Jan 23, 2009 14:15:17 GMT -5
sulsa was spread by an italian guy who claims he learned it from a korean. sulsa 설사 is also korean for diarrhea |
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Post by tenryu on Jan 28, 2009 6:24:28 GMT -5
sulsa was spread by an italian guy who claims he learned it from a korean. sulsa 설사 is also korean for diarrhea Right but not exact. The Italian branch of Korean Ninja came from Australia where's the Korean Ninja Master says to meet his (not better named) Master Kim (who never come to Italy and never met any student in Korea). However the Sul Sa WAS really a warrior elite in Korea but as a Korean researcher told me there are no Sul Sa (do) or Korean Ninja Kwoon in Korea. It seems that in Hwarang Do there are some "Sul sa" techniques but reminds more a modern military training than "ninja" (Hwarang Do seems to be a new style too). However the Korean Copycut ninja seems to date back to 1984 in the Ninja Boom. I found this : books.google.com/books?id=jNsDAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=it&source=gbs_summary_r&cad=0_0#PPA20,M1 my 2 cents |
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